Lobel ’97 Produces Empire on Blood Podcast

Empire on Blood, a new seven-part serialized podcast from Panoply, is produced by Mia Lobel ’97. The series investigates a 1992 double homicide in the Bronx, exploring the judicial process that led to a conviction. That conviction has now been overturned after Calvin Buari spent more than two decades in prison for these murders, which he did not commit.

The show, says Lobel, is the result of veteran journalist Steve Fishman’s six-year quest to determine the facts of the case.

“Steve brought us this incredibly complicated story he’d been working on,” recalls Lobel. “He had courtroom papers and 80 hours of taped interviews with all the key players. It was so exciting for me as a producer. The show takes a really deep look at the moral complexity of the criminal justice system: What happens if you are, actually, a criminal—but convicted of a crime you didn’t commit?”

An anthropology major at Wesleyan, Lobel earned her graduate degree in journalism, specializing in audio formats—“radio, at the time,” she says. She marks 2014 as the year the general public began to share her excitement for audio productions—podcasts—when Serial came out and smartphone technology made it accessible.

“People are being reintroduced to the power of sound alone—where you make all these pictures in your head,” she says.

She, herself, was “hugely influenced” by S-Town, a podcast set in a small town where one man claimed a murderer was at large. Lobel recalls, “It made me really want to try my hand at serialized, narrative nonfiction—one story told over multiple episodes.”

Mia Lobel ’97 produced Empire on Blood. Her upcoming projects include season 3 of Malcolm Gladwell’s Revisionist History, and Family Ghosts, all available from Panoply.

That is exactly what she and the team at Panoply achieved. Each of the Empire on Blood episodes highlights one of the main characters. Additionally, says Lobel, “The host, Steve, is a character himself. He’s been obsessed with this and got so deeply connected to his characters that his audience will, too—even though a number of the people we profile are convicted criminals.”

“You come to feel real empathy for Calvin Buari because Steve allows us to know him in all his complexity—not just a ’90s-era drug lord. We worked really hard to do that for all the characters.”

And it was not a process without harrowing moments. At times, the crew wondered if they—or their tapes—would be subpoenaed. Just before the series went on air, the DA asked the judge to dismiss the case entirely.

“So Calvin is completely free now,” says Lobel. “But you can’t just jump back into your life after 22 years behind bars, and the story investigates that, too.”

“That’s why I’ve loved working on this show; it has a real social justice angle—and it’s a story that’s really Shakespearean in nature. There’s treachery, it’s complicated, it’s bawdy, and also it’s fun at times. It has everything you are looking for in a great story: it has a purpose—but is also entertaining.”